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HairyArse
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I'm moving house next week, and a consequence of this will be losing the use of the company's pool car. So it's time to start looking to buy something.

I've worked out I can spend about 6k without over stretching myself but wondered if anyone had any suggestions? Obviously any vehicle at that price range is gonna be 4/5+ years old but that's fine, my only requirements are that insurance is cheap (my last car was written off in a flood in 2004) and that if it's not a cool sporty car then it has to be suitable for the dog (alsatian) and therefore must have a big boot.

Possibilities so far are: Ford Focus Estate, Landrover Freelander and a Rav4. But I got an email from a car leasing place this morning offering a Volvo C30 for 159 a month which is tempting me as I quite like the look of it - though it's obviously not dog friendly. So if I get something not dog friendly it's got to be 'cool'.
#1 at 16:05:25 - 23/07/2007
peej
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Dog friendly and reasonably cool - a passat estate (diesel) - bloody thing's built like a tank, really reliable. Bit heavy on the servicing side, price wise but I'd have one if I could afford it.

Failing that, for around 6 grand you should be able to get a reasonable mileage Landie Defender 90

Peej

#2 at 16:23:53 - 23/07/2007
HairyArse
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Oh yeah and one other thing - I might well be driving to Cornwall in whatever I buy so it has to be fairly comfortable. And as much as I love Defenders, comfortable they are not.
#3 at 16:28:32 - 23/07/2007
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My mate Yas is a volvo man and that is one hell of a comfortable drive for extended motorway jaunts.

Not very "cool" though

Peej
#4 at 16:31:28 - 23/07/2007
billdoor
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Volvo V40. 5k should get you a 1.8 with 40 something thousand on the clock. Go a bit older, you might stretch to a T4 :)
#5 at 16:32:27 - 23/07/2007
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Nobody has said 'rav4lol' yet?

Sorted.
#6 at 17:01:22 - 23/07/2007
billdoor
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Not enough space in the boot of a Rav4 imho. But then its only as long as a Mondeo, so what do you expect?
#7 at 17:03:03 - 23/07/2007
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The 5 door Rav4 I should have said - they look so much better and have the additional space. 5/5 too according to WhatCar.
#8 at 17:07:58 - 23/07/2007
JimJam
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If you're after a decent reliable car with good servicing costs (and can't afford a decent Passat diesel), I don't think you can go wrong with the Focus Estate. It's not particularly cool, but you can't see it when you're driving it, so do you really care ?

Toyota servicing can be dear (plus, as WOPR said, rav4lol), and old Freelanders suffer from poor build quality.

If you're really into those roadie 4 x 4s, I would have a look at the Honda CR-V, if you can afford the mid-shaped one (02-07). I used to lease one, and not only is it cheap to service, it's got an enormous boot, good cabin space, and loads of nice touches.
#9 at 17:09:25 - 23/07/2007
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HairyArse said:The 5 door Rav4 I should have said - they look so much better and have the additional space. 5/5 too according to WhatCar.


We've got a 55 plate 5 door Rav4. (Strangely it was about half the price on the council lease car scheme as an Astra O_o). Its great to drive on long journeys but whilst the boot is very high, its not incredibly deep.
#10 at 17:17:44 - 23/07/2007
billdoor
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JimJam said:If you're really into those roadie 4 x 4s, I would have a look at the Honda CR-V, if you can afford the mid-shaped one (02-07). I used to lease one, and not only is it cheap to service, it's got an enormous boot, good cabin space, and loads of nice touches.


CRV is a lot bigger than the rav4 though- the HRV is more comparable size wise isn't it? Is it a full time 4wd system? I aways thought it was part time?
#11 at 17:20:49 - 23/07/2007
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I've also considered a Hyundai Santa Fe - don't laugh. They're not that ugly, are very cheap and amazingly have upto 7 seats. I'm just a little concerned that it might be too cheap.
#12 at 17:25:37 - 23/07/2007
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billdoor said:
JimJam said:If you're really into those roadie 4 x 4s, I would have a look at the Honda CR-V, if you can afford the mid-shaped one (02-07). I used to lease one, and not only is it cheap to service, it's got an enormous boot, good cabin space, and loads of nice touches.


CRV is a lot bigger than the rav4 though- the HRV is more comparable size wise isn't it? Is it a full time 4wd system? I aways thought it was part time?


Yeah, you're right Bill, it's part-time 4-wheel drive, but I only ever drove it on road, and the switch to 4-wheel was seemless. Also a bit lighter on fuel economy than the perma-4 wheel drives. We looked at the 5-door Rav4 at the same time, and the CR-V is a bit longer, which is reflected in the additional boot space. Much more useful for us, as we had to fit dogs in, as well as prams.

EDIT - just had a look at the dimensions, and although the CR-V is a foot longer overall, it's slightly narrower, and slightly lower heightwise.
#13 at 17:26:16 - 23/07/2007
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I say you get this and you'll have a couple of grand left over to buy yourself yet another TV :D
#14 at 17:49:36 - 23/07/2007
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HairyArse said:I've also considered a Hyundai Santa Fe - don't laugh.

/has no idea what it looks like but I pissed myself at the gayest ever car name - even gayer than the Daewoo Shirtlifter FHUTA De Luxe Special Edition.
#15 at 17:56:43 - 23/07/2007
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Ha - one of my mates has one of those already in green. I'd need another 2grand for the insurance though!
#16 at 18:01:53 - 23/07/2007
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ruttyboy said:I say you get this and you'll have a couple of grand left over to buy yourself yet another TV :D

Thats actually a pretty good deal, especially if its recently had the clutch and the fig8s changed as he is implying. They are great cars although the 185 was prettier. ^_^
#17 at 19:18:37 - 23/07/2007
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HairyArse said:

Possibilities so far are: Ford Focus Estate, Landrover Freelander and a Rav4.
My wife (and her dog) unabashedly LOVE her rav 4. It's a bit high up though, so make sure you dog can jump that high (is it old?).

For 6k it'll have to be 2nd hand though. But you see so many ravs on the road you have to believe they're solid performers and don't just fall to bits.

So I vote Rav 4. It's suitable for you and a very very cool motor!
#18 at 22:51:31 - 23/07/2007
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Go with the Ford - they're well built, easy to run and tick all the boxes you've specified. Plus if you get one of them turbo diesels, it won't exactly be 'sporty' but you won't often be short of grunt.

Parkers says you could pick up a 2004 1.8 TDi for a shade over 6k from a franchised dealer, and less private. (I highly recommend taking a good look into your options on the parker's site - it's absolutely invaluable for working out what you should be paying for a car).
#19 at 00:20:04 - 24/07/2007
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Ford's a good choice - they rarely break down, cheap to repair and not bad cars, just not very exciting.

Resale value isn't bad either.
#20 at 00:53:56 - 24/07/2007
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Scooby wagon.

Fast, fun, comfortable and easily big enough to have a little GSD in the back of it...
#21 at 10:22:49 - 24/07/2007
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I so wish Mentat, I so wish.

I did find an Impreza estate for 6k the other day but the cheapest insurance I could find was 2100 a year.
#22 at 11:40:54 - 24/07/2007
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HairyArse said:I so wish Mentat, I so wish.

I did find an Impreza estate for 6k the other day but the cheapest insurance I could find was 2100 a year.


Holy crap ! I was thinking about one of these - are you young Hairy, or are they just really expensive ?

/is 36
#23 at 12:02:52 - 24/07/2007
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Well I'm 28 and haven't had my own insurance policy for 3 years. Been driving a company car. I've also got the fact that when I did have my own policy, my car was written off in a flood against me.

All of which probably doesn't help. I think the simple fact is, anything that's desirable costs a fuck load to insure.
#24 at 12:33:10 - 24/07/2007
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Well I finally bought something and will be picking it up tomorrow after it was delayed by a week due to the gear linkage collapsing.

Anyway I've ended up going for a completely boring, practical and FUGLY diesel Ford Focus Estate. The key fact also is that 'cos it's only cost me 2699 it will be paid off within 12 months.

Once it's paid off I might well consider leasing one of those new sexy as fuck Honda Civics as they're only 204 a month from CLVR.com.
#25 at 14:27:25 - 13/08/2007
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The new Honda Civic is indeed sexy as fuck. I love em.

HairyArse said:
I think the simple fact is, anything that's desirable costs a fuck load to insure.

Solution: desire undesirable cars

/pats PT Cruiser
#26 at 14:42:16 - 13/08/2007
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HairyArse said:Once it's paid off I might well consider leasing one of those new sexy as fuck Honda Civics as they're only 204 a month from CLVR.com.

website timed out - not reachable :(
#27 at 15:09:58 - 13/08/2007
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You probably don't want to hear it Hairy, but I think you made the sensible choice. Can't really go wrong with a Focus, and at least it's dog-friendly. Not sure the Civic would be quite so practical.
#28 at 15:20:12 - 13/08/2007
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It's true. The one thing about Fords is that they make life a lot easier for you in that they're reliable and easy to get parts for, plus the insurance on them is reasonable. They may be boring but they're good in the long run.
#29 at 15:50:42 - 13/08/2007
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Ooops, wrong link. Try this one.
#30 at 15:52:20 - 13/08/2007

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