The return of the dead genres?


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Lutzie
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With XBL starting to get into the pace f things, do you think we'll start seeing dead genres (Scolling beat 'em ups, scrolling 2D shoot 'em ups) start appearing again? In original form oo; rehashes of TMNT and DD don't count. Cos they're crap.
#1 at 13:21:38 - 31/07/2007
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I own the TMNT PCB so it's therefore great.

Would be nice to see some things appearing which couldn't get a full-price release any more.
#2 at 13:29:23 - 31/07/2007
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I think we're more likely to see that sort of stuff on the Wii's future new channel (I can't remember the name of it). But as more and more developers seem to be jumping ship and focusing prevalently on the Wii that'd be where my money's at.

I really hope Nintendo do a downloadable 2d Mario game ala New Super Mario Bros for the Wii.
#3 at 13:30:39 - 31/07/2007
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Don't get me wrong, I'm happy about some of the re-releases liek Wonderboy and Streets of Rage, but I'm hoping for new stuff along them lines, if you know what I mean.

So, you think it' smore likly to be Wii HA? Why's that, over XBLA?
#4 at 13:32:22 - 31/07/2007
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Simply because if the Wii carries on as it is, it will be, without any shadow of a doubt, where devs will want to make their money as it will undoubtedly end up with the largest install base.
#5 at 13:34:39 - 31/07/2007
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I can only pray for some new 2D games, but I think like Hairy says the demands of HD source artwork may mean that most of them end up on the Wii.

Hopefully the big boys (Capcom, SNK, Cave etc) might get their arses in gear and really do something special.
#6 at 13:35:25 - 31/07/2007
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Hope so. The 2D (or at least 2.5D) platformer genre has pretty much completely vanished, even on XBLA. Pixel perfect jumps over moving objects just doesn't work in 3D - even the modern "classics" like Jak 1 tried and failed at it. An up to date remake of something like Addams Family or Pandemonium would be superb.
#7 at 13:37:51 - 31/07/2007
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The 2D shmup never died, man!

It just went 2.5D.

FUCK YOU UBISOFT
#8 at 13:41:12 - 31/07/2007
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Radiant Silvergun with leaderboards on XBLA would be nice...
:)
#9 at 22:56:15 - 31/07/2007
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the dead genres will pretty much stay dead.

there's no reason to resurrect a genre that died out in the first place because of lack of sales.

it makes no sense to spend similar amounts of time, effort and cold hard cash on something that is known not to have mass appeal (2d shooters,beat 'em ups etc).

it would be commercial suicide to attempt a resurrection of a dead genre when a similar investment could churn out a mass market friendly none game title (brain training, english training, face training, toilet training etc.) that would sell much better.

it's all very well bleeding the xbla and virtual console crowd to death with old arcade ports but porting simple old code requires far less time, effort and cost than building something similar from scratch.

of course, we'll still keep seeing old ports coming out but that's only because it costs bugger all to do them. while the release schedules are barren wastelands they'll still be bought by old gamers for nostalgia value. which will turn quite a nice profit for the publishers for not alot of time, money or effort.
#10 at 01:05:31 - 01/08/2007
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ThreeOutsideDown said:there's no reason to resurrect a genre that died out in the first place because of lack of sales.

I always thought 2D games died because 3D became fashionable and shiny, not because people stopped buying them. I seem to recall that Sony were quite famous for refusing approval for PS games that were 2 or 2.5D.
#11 at 01:11:26 - 01/08/2007
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point and clicks are back, 2d shooters are back, heavenly sword and god of war pretty much are scrolling beat'm'ups
#12 at 01:16:45 - 01/08/2007
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Yeah, point and click games are seeing a bit of a resurgence for sure. I'm just hoping that market saturation of GTA-lite shit and the difficulty of making 3D graphics 'technically' any better will see a comeback for some 2D stuff. Plus the fact that a large portion of the current market wouldn't be as 'bored' with 2D shooters and fighters as some older people might be as it becomes longer and longer since there was a glut of them released.

Look at that new Capcom game Valkyrie of the Battlefield. Okay, we don't know how the game is going to play, but if that is genuinely an in-game shot then it's ample evidence that people aren't deserting 2D even in 'big' games.
#13 at 01:38:09 - 01/08/2007
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Twin stick shooters a la Robotron are back in a major way, so I don't see why other dead genres shouldn't rise again. Course, the new batch of twin stick shooters rely on analogue sticks, which makes them play quite differently to Robotron/Smash TV and so on.

I don't see why other genres couldn't be resurrected with the additional capabilities of today's controllers. They'd have to be clever though - I can't think of any direct way to emulate a trackball, even using a wiimote, even less a spinner.
#14 at 14:29:36 - 01/08/2007

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