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HairyArse
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Any suggestions/recommendations?

I'm fairly open minded. Or alternatively, if you guys can come up with a way for me to work full time on AATG and make a living off of it...
#1 at 18:13:41 - 03/09/2007
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I'd first of all ask you to elaborate on this usage of the word "need"...

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#2 at 18:16:58 - 03/09/2007
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come work for us- retrain as an accountant. It'll be ace and you can work on aatg almost full time anyway :)
#3 at 18:17:17 - 03/09/2007
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Need meaning I'd like one as I'm a bit bored.
#4 at 18:36:33 - 03/09/2007
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Who am I kidding? A bit bored, I'm very fucking bored.

I guess I'm suffering from two weeks off syndrome as well as feeling under appreciated. But the fact is, since losing the company car and company apartment, there's nothing to hold me here anymore and I feel that a change might be imminent I just need to work out what I want to do.
#5 at 18:39:35 - 03/09/2007
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Woah, I'm a bit bored, too. I didn't even realise I needed a new job.

/Starts job hunting

Actually... what is it you DO? You know? That is, rather, right now, what is it you SHOULD be doing?

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#6 at 18:44:02 - 03/09/2007
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I would suggest international hitman - top totty (as long as you're okay with them trying to kill you, initially), good pay, exciting locations - but to be honest it's not for everyone. The hours are a bit unsociable, and the medical and dental plan is near enough non-existant.

Oh, and I'd probably end up having to kill you. That too.

How about WWE-type wrestler? I'm thinking of starting my own wrestling franchise. The UWF. Bloody yanks and their World Wrestling - try Universal Wrestling Federation, Uncle bastard Sam! In your face! World champion? Pfff. UNIVERSE CHAMPION. Take that. Pow.

You any good at talking trash? You'll need to come up with a decent name too. It's trickier than it sounds.

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#7 at 18:50:50 - 03/09/2007
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Well that's the thing, my job title is "I.T. Controller", but because I work for a small company, that means I do EVERYFUCKINGTHING even vaguely IT related.

Including:

Hardware/software maintenance, installation, repairs and upgrades.
Access database administrator - I built our own bespoke internal systems which handles orders, purchase orders, quotations, complaints, reports etc.
PHP-SQL database/website administrator - we have an online database system that manages an MoD contract.
Telephone installation including network cabling and handsets configuration.

Add to that web design, image editing, photography, server maintenance and loads of other clerical shite and I am the proverbial jack of all trades, but unfortunately master of none.
#8 at 18:51:10 - 03/09/2007
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You're not the jack of all trades - you're the master of jack.

Um... no, wait a second...

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#9 at 19:08:51 - 03/09/2007
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Stevas said:...
How about WWE-type wrestler? I'm thinking of starting my own wrestling franchise. The UWF. Bloody yanks and their World Wrestling - try Universal Wrestling Federation, Uncle bastard Sam! In your face! World champion? Pfff. UNIVERSE CHAMPION. Take that. Pow.

You any good at talking trash? You'll need to come up with a decent name too. It's trickier than it sounds.

oooooh. can i join? i've got my big black coat, black hat and long hair so i could be "the funeral parlour manager" as a cheapo rip off of the undertaker.

/suckerpunches hairy and gets him with a headstone piledriver.
#10 at 20:20:39 - 03/09/2007
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Hmmmm. Well, we clearly need a name that isn't... quite so obvious.

How about "The Overgiver"?

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#11 at 11:27:05 - 04/09/2007
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Does anyone with any knowledge in the industry, think that with the work I've done on this site I could cut it as a PHP developer?
#12 at 15:56:01 - 04/09/2007
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depends on your position/salary expectations. obviously you've not got the training & experience to go in as a senior development bod, but if you've happy with a junior position then there's no good reason why not. check out jobserve.com (or mebe .co.uk i can't remember) for dev work in your area to get an idea of what's out there.
#13 at 18:25:40 - 04/09/2007
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Perhaps have a look at doing freelance web design work also?
#14 at 22:39:16 - 04/09/2007
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HairyArse said:Does anyone with any knowledge in the industry, think that with the work I've done on this site I could cut it as a PHP developer?


I don't see why not. And there are oodles of dev jobs out there. Be warned though, it's a horrible soulless thing to do full time and pretty much ensures that any web work you do for yourself from then on will be amongst your most hated chores. I do web design for the Uni day in, day out and if anyone dares suggest I even do some outside of work now, I'm liable to rip their lungs out and feed them the squishy end.

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#15 at 11:08:57 - 05/09/2007
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Stevas said:Hmmmm. Well, we clearly need a name that isn't... quite so obvious.

How about "The Overgiver"?

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Sounds like a porn flick! :o)

Edit - I also need to remember to fucking hit return a couple of times when I quote, hate the look y'know?
#16 at 22:08:11 - 05/09/2007
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Anyone here ever had to hire people? I'm trying to find a decent example of a CV to either base my own on or to use to judge others, depending on how the next month goes.
#17 at 15:00:53 - 15/08/2009
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I've been involved in selecting people, yeah. Never actually recruited anyone, but I've read a fair few CVs in the past.

A good CV is obvious to spot - because the information you need jumps out at you. So good formatting, plenty of whitespace and length (or lack of it) are pretty damn important. And leave all that hobby stuff towards the end - while it might sway someone one way or the other, the biggest hurdle is getting to the interview in the first place, and that depends on skills, qualifications and experience - so make sure that's visible up front.
#18 at 03:38:36 - 16/08/2009
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Everything I've seen says keep it short (2 pages max) but it makes more sense to make it longer if you do a lot, as you say.

At the moment, under professional experience, I have about 10 bullet points that look like:

• Development of organisational structure and processes to allow contractual requirements to be met

I'm assuming that should really have a very short paragraph of what that involves.
#19 at 17:09:13 - 16/08/2009
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What Mal said, but interview is an important part too. The best members of my team excelled in interview, with one in particular answering every question we were going to throw at him within his opening statement.

In a bit of odd synchronicity, this thread's been bumped at a point where I'm up for my first interview in about 6 years tomorrow. It's an internal thing but a complete change of tack from what I usually do, and should provide a much better grounding for getting out of the UK. :-/
#20 at 19:49:14 - 16/08/2009
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I've been on both sides of the recruiter / recruitee fence and the number one mistake I see on more CVs than anything else is people getting carried away with telling you what they did during their gap year, or the sheer number of sporting clubs they're members of. As has already been said, keep hobbies and interests short and to the point (and unless you're going for a job at a games company, keep gaming off there. Seriously! A lot of weird old bosses still think that if you're a gamer, you'll use their work computers to play games on, space invaders and the like!)

From a recruiter's point of view a smartly formatted CV helps get through the information quickly. Single sheet (at a stretch 2 sheets) if possible, with a really good explanatory and introductory letter to accompany it. No stupid graphics, photo inserts or daft shit like that - just clear name at the top in a large bold font, with each section clearly laid out and headed.
#21 at 09:42:56 - 17/08/2009
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After 10 long years starting in retail ("proper" Game, back when it wasnt shit), and then loads of sales jobs, I've finally managed to get my first ever proper IT job o/

Guy was quite apologetic when he told me the salary ("its just first line support and a junior role") and then it turns out its the best salary I've ever had :P

Great thing is they know my background very well (used to be his IT supplier) and they dont expect me to know everything. Hopefully first line support will be sorting out Doris' keyboard cocking up rather than fixing their PBX though...

Just goes to show the importance of networking though, as mentioned I've been trying to get into this field for years and no agencies or countless applications have got me anywhere - sell a guy a few PCs and Cat5 cables and I'm in.

Oh and my office looks out on the beach :D

So any hints on what I should make sure I'm clued up on? All of my knowledge is self learnt and through experience, rather than a formal IT background.
#22 at 22:15:47 - 19/08/2009
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Congrats on the job.

Furbs said:
Oh and my office looks out on the beach :D


This is the only reason I want a proper office, so I control the view. Having a good view would be brilliant.

Where I sit, I get to have blinds partially open in the mornings (rubbish view but there's daylight), in the afternoon it's like I've moved into the land of the mole-people as there's one guy that must think he'll turn to dust if light gets near him.
#23 at 00:14:34 - 20/08/2009
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Thanks :)

With my last job we ended up moving above the warehouse after they fitted a mezanine floor. Meant there were no windows at all. We ended up turning one of the CCTV cameras towards the horizon so we knew whether or not to take coats at lunchtime :P
#24 at 00:17:04 - 20/08/2009
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:D

I get to see seagulls going at it on the roof of the warehouse next to my block (in the mornings only, obviously). Bet you're jealous now.
#25 at 00:19:04 - 20/08/2009
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Congrats Furbs. Tbh, it's hard to fuck up first line support - they expect so little from you in my experience. Which means that if you do pretty much anything at all, you'll look good. Just make sure that whatever you become known for, it's something easy. Nothing worse than being the guy to go to when you need cat-5 cable laying in the false ceiling.

On the subject of daylight, I don't understand all the people that insist that every blind in the building is shut at all times, so that we bask in the light of 100 crappy flourescent bulbs. I know about how annoying it is to get the sun in your eyes, but that can only affect a quarter of the people in the building, and then for only an hour or so a day.

And the people that moan about reflections in their monitors, don't get me started. We've all got matt LCDs these days!
#26 at 01:03:13 - 20/08/2009
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If I had a sea view I'd get even less work done than I do now!
#27 at 09:54:28 - 20/08/2009
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Bump.

Anyone here work in Central London and can think of a reason not to? I seem to have fixed my sights on finding a job there and living as close to it as possible. I've found doing something I hate every single day for unspectacular wages isn't worth it anymore.

Fortunately I had to update my CV for a company thing recently so that bit is really easy.

So far I've uploaded a copy to a job site but as I've never really had to find a job, I have no idea how worthwhile that approach is. I am looking at the same time but when I already have one that is comfortable, it seems hard to put massive amounts of effort in.
#28 at 02:17:57 - 15/04/2010
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My sister in law used to live in a flat on Gt Ormand St and work just off of Goodge St. She loved it.

It was a small flat and the rent was about as much as you' pay for a house in the suburbs but she was right in the thick of it.
#29 at 11:29:50 - 15/04/2010
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That's what I was hoping. Having lived in small towns all my life but visiting cities a bit more over the last few months I have found that I've liked them more than I thought I would (i.e. a lot).

I'm quite looking forward to finding something now :)
#30 at 21:19:10 - 15/04/2010

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