Assassin's Creed: Brotherhood


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Surprised there's no thread for this. Been playing it a bit over the weekend and my god, it's a huge game. It seems to be taking AGES to get anywhere but it's very good.

Not seeing where EG got a 10 from (apart from the huge purse of cash they were probably offered by Ubi for the privilege) but it is very good indeed, builds on AC II quite nicely but finding a lot of the Borgia Captain assassinations a bit repetitive and fucking hell Ubi, it still tears like a bastard.
#1 at 10:19:35 - 22/11/2010
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Probably the worst marketed game of all time? Loved the first two but I largely ignored this thinking its a cash-in multiplayer game.

Even now I'm not sure where it fits in terms of does it advance the story line?

From the sounds of things this is what we used to call an expansion pack? Not meaning that in the bad way (love AC2, so if it is more of the same thats good). That said, if its just more of the same my limit will be £20.
#2 at 11:49:49 - 22/11/2010
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It carries on straight from the end of the second game.

At least I think it does but my copy hasn't arrived yet.

/shakes fist at Zavvi
#3 at 12:08:18 - 22/11/2010
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Furbs said:Probably the worst marketed game of all time?

Even now I'm not sure where it fits in terms of does it advance the story line?


Who cares about that sort of info? All you need is a flashy advert with Tinie Tempah and boom - straight to the top of the charts. Or at least it would have been if it wasn't for that pesky CoD.
#4 at 12:22:56 - 22/11/2010
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Whizzo said:It carries on straight from the end of the second game.

At least I think it does but my copy hasn't arrived yet.

/shakes fist at Zavvi


Yep it does carry on straight from the end of the last game, which made me glad I'd picked it up because that certainly wasn't made clear enough in some of the reviews I read (though it's not really a spoiler to say if you haven't played AC II you're going to feel like you've missed something and you could probably do with playing the original AC as well).

I haven't even got as far as enlisting the Brotherhood, still wandering around killing nasty Borgias and taking in the amazing scenery. Tearing aside, Rome is bloody amazing to behold and the database entries on the buildings etc are an awesome addition.
#5 at 12:33:38 - 22/11/2010
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I started playing this yesterday and have completed the first two memory sequences. Decided to spend some time fannying about in Rome before starting on sequence 3, so have burnt some Borgia Towers, bagged some Viewpoints and started renovating the city. So far, it's very much AC2.5 but then, I loved AC2 so that's no problem; presumably AC3 will be in a different time frame, perhaps Victorian London?

Tearing aside ("FUCKING UBISOFT"), the combat is still slightly lacking and I can't seem to nail the killstreak at all. Other than that though, great stuff...
#6 at 12:59:06 - 22/11/2010
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I'm finding the combat tougher this time round too. Most of the time I seem to get into a rinse-repeat phase of kicking an antagonist in the balls, then going in to finish them off with whatever weapon I've got to hand. And it's not always clear which weapon will be drawn, the weapon / quick draw wheels could've been done a lot better. Just give me a fucking option to pick a sword, knife or otherwise from an inventory Ubi, ffs!

Definitely concur that it's AC 2.5 but similarly I loved AC 2 so not a big deal for me, just enjoying it so far.
#7 at 13:01:51 - 22/11/2010
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The D-pad provides direct access to 'fist', 'knive', 'sword' and 'hidden blade' - am I missing something?

On the other hand: Shittiest game manual ever!
#8 at 13:05:07 - 22/11/2010
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Yup but half the time I'm not always sure what weapon I've got equipped (as in different swords, knives etc). Though most of the time it doesn't really seem to make much difference - Ezio's still crap in a fight with anything other than his fists :)

#9 at 13:44:48 - 22/11/2010
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Ah, right. I think a visit to Ezio's hideout or at the very least, a blacksmith, might be in order then...
#10 at 13:59:50 - 22/11/2010
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Nonono I have alt weapons, I'm just hating the way you have to rely on a graphical representation of 'em to figure out what's what.

Hard to explain as it was probably the same in AC II. Just that half the time Ezio seems to fight with his hidden knives rather than his sword.

Probably just me being a numpty...never mind.
#11 at 14:56:51 - 22/11/2010
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I fell into the "thought this was an expansion pack with a bit of multiplayer" camp but after hearing Ryan Davies on last week's Bombcast I'm now regretting choosing GT5 as my last game of the year - this sounds utterly awesome
#12 at 15:57:51 - 22/11/2010
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Oh you just reminded me. I managed to break the game quite spectacularly by somehow "falling" through a cliff face near one mission. Couldn't get out, only option was to restart the game - which pissed me off as it was just towards the end of a fairly lengthy mission.

It's happened once but I bet it'll happen again. Like always I wish I'd taken a pic. It was quite spectacular.
#13 at 16:58:00 - 22/11/2010
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Bizarrely, the thing that annoys me the most about AC:B is their use of the contraction 'synch' (rather than 'sync') which I always subconsciously pronounce with a 'ch' sound...
#14 at 09:11:33 - 23/11/2010
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Good grief this is addictive.

Can't stop playing this and it's seriously cutting into NFS: HP time. Definitely should've left this one till the inevitable new year gaming drought! Bloody massive game.
#15 at 09:14:23 - 23/11/2010
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I'm now on Sequence 6 and am bordering on obsessed by this game; having a map so utterly full of 'things to do' is almost overwhelming.

Of the new additions, I'm less taken by the Borgia Towers ("the Borgia Captain is fleeing") but training up my brotherhood of assassins is surprisingly good fun. Great to unleash them on random guards and quietly upsetting when a recruit fails to return from a mission overseas.

Right, how much is the Pantheon again...?
#16 at 10:14:39 - 29/11/2010
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Finally got around to installing this yesterday, I thought it would be a nice change of pace from racing in HP, it feels like putting on pair of really comfortable shoes you've broken in nicely.

Really enjoying it and I've barely scratched the surface of how much there is in it, I can see this consuming a lot of my free time.
#17 at 10:22:44 - 29/11/2010
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On the other hand: Shittiest game manual ever!


Read it more carefully. There's an explanation in there. The manual is all available in game and the slim hard copy is part of ubisoft's commitment to protecting the environment.

Bwahahahah. Riiiigggggghhhhtt.
#18 at 00:22:12 - 01/12/2010
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I meant to just play this for an hour or so last night - ended up stuck with it for longer simply because it's just SO BLOODY INVOLVING.

It reminds me a bit of Saboteur in that small acts of sedition add up until you're calling in huge armies of assassins every time you get into a scrap.

Love it to bits. Tearing and all.
#19 at 10:58:20 - 02/12/2010
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I played a couple of hours of this last night. Loving it so far. It was also really refreshing to play as Desmond for a bit. I reckon if Ubisoft developed their own Uncharted-type game outside of the AC universe it could be absolutely awesome.
#20 at 11:02:16 - 02/12/2010
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I stay away from playing Desmond as much as possible really...I still think Ubisoft could've bit the bullet and done away with the modern crap, and the game wouldn't suffer for it.

#21 at 11:03:38 - 02/12/2010
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I like the modern crap, it's what makes the story interesting fro me.
#22 at 14:36:32 - 02/12/2010
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I guess I just prefer the old stuff because I'm a complete history nut. It's good to find out just how well researched this game is (like its predecessors) and how much painstaking work must've gone into reproducing some of the architectural stuff in this.

As far as the Borgias go, I think the developers have actually painted a slightly less awful picture of 'em than real life history actually portrays. They were mental!

#23 at 14:56:52 - 02/12/2010
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The multuplayer for this is pretty good fun!
Had some good tense all on all matches, the quietest multiplayer game I have ever played, everyone just goes silent as they are tracking their target.
Also the team games are quite different and great fun too, lots of rooftop chases.
#24 at 11:16:46 - 13/12/2010
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/stabs Espad

/gets stabbed by Kotano

/Spaz stuns

/accidentally kills civie

Fun times. :-)
#25 at 12:18:10 - 13/12/2010
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Finished sequence 7 about a week ago, and have spent the time since then 'hoovering' the map before I head off to the Vatican.

Considering the first AC was criticised for repetitive missions, and given that they're still all fairly similar in Brotherhood, I'm absolutely loving buying shops and landmarks, collecting treasures, flags and feathers, infiltrating tombs, destroying Leonardo's war machines and grooming my crack squad of all-female assassins. There's just so much more to do than just assassinate enemies.

And I've still got most of the hidden glyphs to track down...
#26 at 09:00:42 - 14/12/2010
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I'm finding Brotherhood a lot less repetitive and I've not even touched the various side quests in this yet. I remember in AC II I just had one massive session of trying to find all the glyphs on buildings after I'd done everything else.

It's quite satisfying restoring Rome and getting paid shedloads of cash every time you go to the bank though :)
#27 at 10:27:24 - 14/12/2010
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Finished AC:Brotherhood at the weekend; a bit disappointed by sequences 8 and 9 but otherwise, a fantastic title, especially for what is effectively an update to a sequel. 9/10
#28 at 12:46:53 - 20/12/2010
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Still need to finish this. There's just so much to do and it's got a wee bit grindy near the end...

#29 at 13:32:02 - 20/12/2010
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Pretty much like any AC then :D

Mind you, I enjoy the grind in these, quite relaxing, a bit like Crackdown.
#30 at 14:15:50 - 20/12/2010

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