Buying a new PC.


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Sillothian
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Was thinking about getting a new PC and was wondering where is the best place to get it from?

I'm not going to build it myself. I could, but I'd rather someone else built it, tested it and guaranteed the whole system.

Dirtbox recommended EasyPC on EG. Are there any other places you guys recommend or any people I should avoid?
#1 at 13:37:48 - 20/01/2011
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Novatech.

Never had a problem with them, ever - and I've been using them for over 10 years now. Solid machines, good third party bits in them, absolutely bloody marvellous value and customer service second to none.
#2 at 13:52:31 - 20/01/2011
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Cheers Peej. Will give the Novatech site a look :-)
#3 at 10:48:28 - 21/01/2011
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Novatech are great. I don't think I've had better customer service off anyone expect possibly komplett and they've withdrawn from the UK :(
#4 at 11:00:01 - 21/01/2011
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My trusty PC is now into it's 7th year of service and it's starting to creak at the seams so I'm thinking it might be time to treat myself to a new one.

I pretty much have no idea about PC hardware and what's good and what's not so I'm hopefully someone might take a gander at a couple of setups and give me an opinion?

First option is the Fabro i5 from Dino Pc:

Intel Core i5 2500
Coolermaster Hyper TX3
Asus P8H67-M Evo (Rev. 3)
4.0GB Corsair DDR3 1600mhz XMS3 CL9 (2x 2GB)
1TB S-ATAIII 6.0Gb/s
22x DVDRW DL S-ATA
ATI Radeon HD 6790 1GB
500W Xigmatek PSU
Xigmatek Asgard Case
Logitech keyboard

This comes to 595.17 delivered.

On the strength of Novatech mentions from peej and BillDoor, they have this similar system:

Intel Core i5 2400 Processor
Intel H67 Chipset
2 x 2GB DDR3 1333Mhz Memory
2 x 500GB 6Gb/s Hard Drive
22x DVD Writer
GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1024MB
Novatech PowerStation Gaming 500W Silent Modular PSU
Novatech ATX Gaming Case
Novatech Wired Keyboard And mouse

for 589.99 delivered.

On the first PC, I can change the graphics card to a GeForce GTX 550 Ti 1GB for 3 extra - should I be favouring one or the other?

I'm not particularly into PC gaming so I realise both rigs are probably overkill for what I need! I do some work with QuarkXpress (with one yearly project that gets pretty big) and the odd bit of Photoshopping. I'm mostly just thinking of something that will happily tick along for the next 7 years really.

Thanks very muchly :)
#5 at 10:23:19 - 03/05/2011
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Good spec on the Novatech rig. Avoid Dino PC like the plague. This is the third company the owners have registered (after the last two went into receivership) so definitely be very very wary of 'em.

As I said though, Novatech are spot on and their custom built stuff (even the barebones rigs) are bloody good value and properly soak tested before you get 'em too.

BTW don't be afraid to overspec! You can never have too much power for PC gaming :)
#6 at 12:48:42 - 03/05/2011
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Cheers for the info peej! I didn't realise Dino PC had a colourful history.

I just had a chat with someone at Novatech to ask about upgrading the i5 2400 to a 2500 and they said it carries a 60 customisation cost which is a shame.

I shall have a think.
#7 at 14:57:56 - 03/05/2011
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The other thing I just noticed about the Novatech spec there - the PSU is a bit underpowered for today's gaming needs. Worth grabbing a Silent Purepower Pro 700W modular PSU (additional 35-40 quid) as it'll be well worth it if you go mental with the graphics card spec at a later date.

#8 at 15:06:40 - 03/05/2011
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I'll keep that in mind, cheers again peej :)
#9 at 16:01:13 - 03/05/2011
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fwiw, I bought a PC from Dino PC absolutely no problems a good couple of years ago (after recommendations on EG), so they've been going long enough now.
#10 at 02:08:38 - 04/05/2011
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I think the brand name has been around but the company has gone bust a few times. That in theory makes warranties iffy.
#11 at 09:45:06 - 04/05/2011
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Novatech are indeed very good. No one I know has had a problem with them and all speak highly of them.

If you're not that interested in gaming then the difference between them isn't that important but the Radeon card is better than the Geforce card.
#12 at 23:47:28 - 04/05/2011
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Cheers for the advice everyone :) I ended up going for the one from Dino PC so fingers crossed they don't go bust again any time soon! I noticed on EG they've got a thread on Dino dating back to June '08 so figured three years was long enough to take a chance with them.

Again, thanks for the tips :)
#13 at 09:44:21 - 05/05/2011
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If it's a standard bit of kit you should be OK as long as you don't pay extra for a warranty. Basically that's what I like about Novatech, stuff's guaranteed sure but it's all standard kit so swapping bits out when they fail is easy. Far better situation to be in than buying a HP or a Dell :)

G'luck with it and let us know how you get on :)
#14 at 09:47:13 - 05/05/2011
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Nah, I didn't bother with the extra warranty - I think they end up being more trouble than they are worth.

I think I've got to wait up to two weeks for it to arrive, but I'll you know how I get on :)
#15 at 11:24:00 - 05/05/2011
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TheBoy said:Nah, I didn't bother with the extra warranty - I think they end up being more trouble than they are worth.

I think I've got to wait up to two weeks for it to arrive, but I'll you know how I get on :)


I'll be very interested to see how good the service is from Dino PC. I've got my eye on a budget rig from them to do a little bit a PC gaming on the side ;-)
#16 at 11:41:06 - 05/05/2011
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Sorry to hijack but since it's sort of related to this thread - can anyone recommend a good 22" max monitor that does 1920x1080? Preferably with an HDMI port so that I can connect the 360.
#17 at 14:13:09 - 05/05/2011
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Sillothian said:I'll be very interested to see how good the service is from Dino PC. I've got my eye on a budget rig from them to do a little bit a PC gaming on the side ;-)


One thing I can say already is make sure you save a quote before you purchase as they email you a 5 discount code after you've left it a day or so.
#18 at 15:01:49 - 05/05/2011
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For nosiness sake, what sort of stuff are you guys going to be playing on these new rigs?

#19 at 15:40:18 - 05/05/2011
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Kay said:Sorry to hijack but since it's sort of related to this thread - can anyone recommend a good 22" max monitor that does 1920x1080? Preferably with an HDMI port so that I can connect the 360.

If you're looking to play console games on it as well, the Iiyama ProLite E2201W 22" is excellent.

edit: or whatever the actual in stock newer version of that monitor is.

editedit: Iiyama ProLite E2210HDS-1
#20 at 20:27:59 - 05/05/2011
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peej said:For nosiness sake, what sort of stuff are you guys going to be playing on these new rigs?


I was looking at the cheapest machine that DinoPC do (the Gallant) so I certainly wouldn't be playing Crysis on maximum settings! I'd probably just be taking advantage of all the offers you see on Steam and the like. It is unbelievable how cheap games go for on these sites, especially the older titles.

Although I'd be much better off playing through my rather large backlog of 360 and PS3 titles before I even think about buying a PC for gaming ;-)
#21 at 21:01:06 - 06/05/2011
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My new PC turned up a couple of hours ago and am now in the middle of copying stuff over from my old PC :)

Delivery took exactly 14 days from ordering which is what they said it would take. Although I also ordered a keyboard which it turns out is out of stock and so they are apparently sending it to me later. It would have been simple to let me know and offer an alternative, etc.

As for the PC (which is probably the important part after all!) everything seems fine. The DVD drive is pretty loud but in all it's fairly quiet. I haven't tried running any games or anything yet.

Fingers crossed it serves me well for the next 7 years or more ;)

A quick note on a handy website my sister pointed me towards which is probably already well known to everyone but was new to me: ninite.com. It allows you to select a load of commonly installed programs and cram them into one installer. You just start it going and it installs all the programs without you having to do them one by one.
#22 at 17:04:31 - 18/05/2011
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Gonna bump this thread rather than starting a new one...

Looking to possibly upgrade my PC in the next couple of weeks, I am currently running some ooooold ting (C2D E8400, 8800GTS512, 4GB of DDR2 RAM) but would ideally like to not faff around with getting a whole new PC and having to transfer/redownload/reinstall a million and one things.

What sort of parts should I be looking at in order to run "today's games" pretty well?
#23 at 21:21:56 - 05/09/2011
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Judging by that lot, a new PC :)

Might be doing that myself sooner rather than later if any more bits fail on my gaming rig. First the GPU got toasted last week, now it looks like the main hard drive's dying too. Just hoping the mobo doesn't go next :(

I think I remember why I gave up PC gaming.
#24 at 09:06:25 - 06/09/2011
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peej said:Judging by that lot, a new PC :)

Haha, indeed, but my case/PSU/HDD are fine, so I don't particularly want to spend the extra on a whole brand new unit.
#25 at 17:06:57 - 06/09/2011
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Not exactly what you want to do ilm, but assuming that you have SATA drives and that's still the current standard, why not buy a bare bones kit and just transfer your HDDs and DVD-Rom ? If you need a new m/b, gfx card and cpu, a new case and PSU probably aren't too bad an idea. That's definitely what I'm going to do next time I upgrade. Can't be arsed with all the license/software reloading.
#26 at 20:07:10 - 06/09/2011
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That definitely sounds more like something I want to do, yeah, will look into it. Cheers!
#27 at 00:01:01 - 07/09/2011
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A new graphics card is all you need to keep you going for another year/18 months.

My PC is only a bit better than yours, except the GPU, and can run everything at maximum settings.
#28 at 23:43:14 - 07/09/2011
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Hmm, veeeery interesting. I will certainly bear that in mind if I can't work out anything more long-lasting.
#29 at 01:06:30 - 08/09/2011
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Ilm, if your case and PSU are OK (making sure your PSU can dish out at least 700w without breaking sweat) then go for one of Novatech's barebones bundles (http://www.novatech.co.uk) and just add a reasonably priced GPU to the mix. Should do the trick.

At the moment the last bottleneck on my system is the hard drive and SATA 2 just ain't cutting it any more but solid state / hybrid drives are just too durned pricey for me.
#30 at 09:26:37 - 08/09/2011

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