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peej
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Nintendo's new console and handheld controller thingy. A thread of sorts.

Looking at Nintendo's E3 Launch Trailer (and cutting through the smoke and mirrors) it actually looks fairly interesting BUT can it really win back the hardcore?

Cross platform titles should at least be interesting on it (there will always be comparisons between anything on this and the Xbox 360 / PS3, in fact you could probably ghost write any reviews of such titles on it and just copy-paste comparison paragraphs in :)

I'll be interested to see how that touch-screen controller gets used though. Another gimmick like Kinect / Move or a genuine leap forward in controller design?
#1 at 12:34:57 - 09/06/2011
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2 Launch games from Nintendo that aren't remakes and it'll be worth every penny :D
#2 at 13:48:24 - 09/06/2011
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Like I said in the E3 thread - I can't decide whether this is madness or genius.

Definitely on the fence for this one
#3 at 14:31:49 - 09/06/2011
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I keep wavering between thinking if it works like the trailer I'll fall completely in love with it (the prospect of being able to sit on a comfy sofa in the lounge while the missus watches soap crap but play the games I'd play on the telly normally sort of has a twisted appeal)

Definitely want that tablet to work like it does for the little kid doing the Link drawing. I'd buy it on that basis alone if it wasn't cripplingly priced as it'd save me having to shell out for a tablet PC that does the same thing
#4 at 14:48:13 - 09/06/2011
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I think it's genius, not for me but for the young family it's aimed at.

So my friend has two young kids and they have a Wii, four controllers, two with motion plus, the balance board and various steering wheels and guns and such.

He gets a Wii U and it comes with a single Wii U controller (the console only supports one) but uses all of the Wii stuff, all he has to do is swap the boxes and they get the new shiny console.

Compare that to the move from Xbox to 360. For a young family with kids I cannot fault their logic.
#5 at 14:49:48 - 09/06/2011
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peej said:I keep wavering between thinking if it works like the trailer I'll fall completely in love with it (the prospect of being able to sit on a comfy sofa in the lounge while the missus watches soap crap but play the games I'd play on the telly normally sort of has a twisted appeal)

Definitely want that tablet to work like it does for the little kid doing the Link drawing. I'd buy it on that basis alone if it wasn't cripplingly priced as it'd save me having to shell out for a tablet PC that does the same thing


It was mentioned somewhere yesterday that they're looking at a $250 price point.

Also Randy Pitchford said the controller screen can be used in Colonial Marines to display extra information like maps or the motion tracker while you're playing on the TV or you can play the game right on the controller!
#6 at 14:52:20 - 09/06/2011
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Gotta agree on the Wii U as an upgrade option. It does mean that soon there'll be an absolute glut of secondhand Wiis kicking around. The old filter-down effect I guess. Mate at work just picked one up with two controllers for 50 quid so the knock on effect is already being seen.

Only thing that concerns me about using the controller for HUDs etc (and the motion tracker in ACM) is that I really don't want my attention taken away from the main screen by stuff like this. It never worked particularly well on the DC (which is probably why most game developers resorted to just shoving silly little LCD animations on the VMU screen) so I'm not sure it's going to work particularly well in the Wii U's case either.

#7 at 15:05:05 - 09/06/2011
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peej said:Only thing that concerns me about using the controller for HUDs etc (and the motion tracker in ACM) is that I really don't want my attention taken away from the main screen by stuff like this. It never worked particularly well on the DC (which is probably why most game developers resorted to just shoving silly little LCD animations on the VMU screen) so I'm not sure it's going to work particularly well in the Wii U's case either.


I totally agree with this Peej. Trying to move all the HUD elements to the controller's screen would be a stupid idea. The best use of the screen would be for stuff where you usually have to stop the game and bring up a menu like inventory management. Puzzle mini games are also a no brainer especially using the touch screen.
#8 at 15:29:17 - 09/06/2011
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Only thing that makes me slightly cautious is how my Wii ended up.

I have every good game ever on it but the drive to play PS3 games is always stronger because the Wii is such an offline, isolated experience.

Wii U will really need to up its game when it comes to a fully featured online network to match PSN/XBL.
#9 at 15:43:39 - 09/06/2011
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If you believe the Nintendo hype, they're moving away from the idea of friends codes so perhaps Nintendo are actually trying to encourage the sort of gaming people have been enjoying on PSN / Xbox Live for the last few years.

Y'see this is the thing with everything Nintendo does. They think about the immediacy of bringing a bunch of people together in the same room and providing games and content that works on that basis. We've always used our Wii like that, and it's been excellent fun for those family gatherings where it's a straight choice between hilarity on Wii Sports etc or a boring game of Monopoly.

If Nintendo can successfully transpose that type of experience to online, they'll be quids in and might even win back the hardcore from their competitors.

Otherwise the Wii U is doomed to be yet another Nintendo console that gathers dust under the telly while you play other stuff on other machines.
#10 at 15:57:29 - 09/06/2011
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EG article on the WiiU supporting only one controller per console.

It seems a bit strange that the focus of your new console is the controller, but then Nintendo limit you to only one per machine. I predict quite a few tears as kids fight over who gets to use the fancy pad ;-)
#11 at 17:53:36 - 09/06/2011
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It does seem a bit odd. But it's likely to be a decision driven by selling you another expensive piece of peripheral kit a bit further down the line. Remember the WiiMotion Plus? Likelihood is that Nintendo will come up with some sort of buffering plug-in for the console that'll handle more than one Wii U controller, market it as "now your friends can bring their own Wii U Controller round for double the fun!" and cash in.

Nintendo are experts at producing a relatively low cost (to Nintendo) console that requires substantial investment in order to get the full fat experience from it. Wii Fit Board? Yep that'll be 90 quid guvnor. Extra motion sensing widget because we couldn't be arsed to include it in the first place (and probably won't bother properly supporting it) ? Extra 15-20 quid guv. Oh and did we mention you'll need a Nunchuck because the Wii remote doesnt' really work for certain game types on its own?

My guess is that, at retail, all there will be in the Wii U box is the console and the controller and there's no way they'll be able to bring that in (in the UK at least) for under 250-300 quid. Lump on top of that the cost of extra Wii controllers (if you don't have the originals) and it's going to be an extremely expensive addition to your console collection that (reportedly) only just manages to scrape together enough processing / graphical power to match current console tech

#12 at 09:42:55 - 10/06/2011
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I am currently disagreeing with every negative comment about this (including re: only being able to use one fancy controller or... anything, basically) on principle. The amount of fawning people do over Nintendo when they come up with utter crap, and then when they try to do something actually cool people seem to be shitting all over them (not specifically on here, obv.)
#13 at 07:21:37 - 11/06/2011
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I'm VERY excited about this. HD Nintendo is going to make me a very happy boy indeed!
#14 at 15:30:12 - 11/06/2011
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Ooh imagine Okami on this!
#15 at 14:14:08 - 12/06/2011
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*Bonk*

So, we know it's out on the 30th November and that it's going to have a Mario game with it.

No EU Price confirmed.

Anyone interested in it yet?

#16 at 16:25:55 - 13/09/2012
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Hell yes. Mario looks gorgeous!
#17 at 16:55:49 - 13/09/2012
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Didn't realise it would be coming out this soon. Have they announced a Zelda game and a proper Mario game, yet? That would raise my interest level instantly. From 0.
#18 at 16:57:02 - 13/09/2012
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Define "proper".

There's a NEW super Mario Bros U. They need to start removing that "new" bit don't they. Zelda announced but that will be miles off I'd imagine. HD Mario really is a thing of beauty.
#19 at 17:01:26 - 13/09/2012
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I guess by proper I don't mean a 2D Multiplayer Mario game. :)
#20 at 17:07:32 - 13/09/2012
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Some might argue that a proper Mario games IS 2d ;)
Either way, looks lovely.
#21 at 17:10:19 - 13/09/2012
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I know! I always preferred the 3D ones. Well the last and first one I played was the N64 for one, but I enjoyed it more than the previous Gameboy games. :)

Edit: Just saw the launch line-up. There is nothing at all that interest me. Not even a WaveRace game. :(
#22 at 17:17:29 - 13/09/2012
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Nintendo Land new trailer

As someone that still has fond memories of playing a lot of gamecube titles such as Monkeyball multiplayer, Warioware and even to a lesser extent Mario Party with the mrs this looks rather cool.
#23 at 13:06:22 - 19/09/2012
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I'm sure it'll be a polished enough title but I still find it staggering that Nintendo really hopes to sell the Wii U to the masses off of the back of something like Nintendo Land.

Wii Sports was an incredibly effective launch title because it gave new players the sense that they were doing something they had never done before in a game. In comparison, Nintendo Land is, er, a minigame compilation.

Sad to say but for me this is going to be the first Nintendo home console I've not bought day one since the SNES. There's just nothing in the launch lineup that demonstrates to me why I need to own one in addition to a Wii, 360 and PS3. I also suspect I'm not alone, and think we're going to see the Wii U disappoint (sales figures-wise) quite heavily at launch.
#24 at 15:35:21 - 19/09/2012
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Wii Sports being bundled with the Wii was a genius move. First time in a very long time that a christmas purchase included everything you need (bar extra controllers, natch) to get up and running and have a great laugh playing something that everyone can join in with.

Nintendo pulled the rather fantastic stroke of bundling the consoles (then) best game with the thing. This time round though, it feels like they've just jumped on the micro-fleecing bandwagon the other two main players in the console hardware market have already been riding for years.
#25 at 15:43:16 - 19/09/2012
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Just to counterpoint. If I buy a next-gen console at all, it will be the Wii U. I'm too old to have a mancave, the off-TV principle is a brilliant idea.

But I'll probably just stick to my 3DS, and maybe Vita if it ever gets off its arse.
#26 at 09:38:26 - 20/09/2012
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The off TV thing has potential but as you say - for many people, if most of their gaming time is going to be on a handheld, they'll just buy a handheld instead.

I'm sure I'll pick up a Wii U at some point, once the inevitable Zelda and (proper) Mario games come along I'll inevitably be tempted in. It's just not a day one purchase is all.
#27 at 14:18:41 - 20/09/2012
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My interests are in Pikmin, Wonderful 101, Bayonetta 2 and maybe Rayman and NSMB U.

But that's because I think Zelda is fucking terrible.
#28 at 14:57:30 - 20/09/2012
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Eurogamer's NSMB U review has me tempted, I have to admit. Even Nintendo Land sounds quite good - although I don't really have enough occasions when I have gaming friends around to justify it. Still not tempted enough to splash out right now though - sometime next year when there's a a larger library of games and hopefully a new Mario/Zelda game on the way, that's likely to be when I'll pick one up.
#29 at 10:07:26 - 16/11/2012
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I'd forgotten all about Lego City. My daughter saw that in her Lego magazine and said it looked cool.

This does not bode well. It's potentially the only Wii U title I'd be interested in. Lego GTA? Well why the devil not!
#30 at 10:59:39 - 16/11/2012

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