So have non-Slim 360 consoles been left to rot then?


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Furbs
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Trying to find a new, official 250gb HDD for my 18month old Elite and it looks like they're like rocking horse poopy.

Guessing I'm looking at getting a slim if I don't want the hassle of swapping installed games around all the time then?
#1 at 15:35:03 - 24/10/2011
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Yep... Completly left to die, I also wanted to buy a 250gb for my arcade and all I was able to buy was second hand 60gb, and that was about a year ago...
#2 at 15:59:48 - 24/10/2011
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But can we expect the same to happen to the Slim once the 720 comes out, the way the original Xbox was ditched?

On one hand, I think publishers would be much less impressed if MS did that this time around. On the other hand, in 12-18 months time the 360 could be looking pretty much sidelined against PC/PS3/WiiU/portables.
#3 at 05:52:39 - 25/10/2011
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Online communities will drive the adoption of the future systems. Xbox->Xbox 360 was just a preview; online gaming is the engine of core game sales. The first big online title that is exclusive to the next generation of systems will drive hardware sales to that system, the only question in my mind is whether it will be driven by first- or third- party. Third parties were burned by a lack of preparedness last time, but all indications are that this is definitely not going to be the case this time.

There are plenty of old 360 HDDs in the shops round here btw, but yeah, retail prices.
#4 at 10:33:43 - 25/10/2011
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New ones are available from a couple of Amazon marketplace traders (ones fulfilled by Amazon as well so that's nice) they're £100 though and considering how you can get a brand new 250 gig S for 180 quid it's probably not worth doing.

I wonder when the 150 quid 250s will pop up again? It was too nice to pass up when I switched back in March.
#5 at 11:25:52 - 25/10/2011
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The 'current gen' (with the exception of the Wii), has passed me by, so I don't have a 360 or a PS3, but I feel I need one of each to keep my console collection complete.

Back in the day, you wanted a PS1, you bought a PS1 and that was that, but these days, there are umpteen version of each.

So - if I wanted to pick up a new 360 - nothing fancy - that played games from disc, and I didn't want to store much on the hard drive (I'm not into downloadable content, I buy a game, I play it. The end.), which model should I be looking at?

And if anybody can answer the same question for PS3 I'd be grateful.

God, I sound like my Mother, asking for help using the DVD player...

/nips off to the study to shoot himself
#6 at 12:29:37 - 25/10/2011
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I've got a 60gb hard drive, I've never had an issue with filling that up and currently have about three games installed (did used to have about eight-ten) and a load of stuff bought from XBLA. I think I've got about 20gb left.

There really is little need for a hulking great big hard drive for the majority of 360 users I would think, unless they want to store all of their music on it.
#7 at 12:42:04 - 25/10/2011
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I think with the price of the 250gb Slim 360, it'd be rude not to. Bypass all the kinect nonsense, and you can't really lose. So many good offers around at the moment.

Same goes for the PS3 slim.

I've got a 250GB HD on my 360, and it regularly gets down to about 40-50gb from game installs. Particularly if you install all disks of a multi-disk game (Forza 4, Rage, I'm looking at you. Most XBLA games don't take up that much space and you can always re-download 'em if you're not playing something currently, but might want to dip into it later on).

#8 at 12:46:48 - 25/10/2011
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@Boo: You'd want one of those new Slims. There should be an Uncharted 3 bundle. They are more reliable than the old fat ones, and some argue they are not as noisy. I would disagree with latter. If I can hear while playing it's too loud.
#9 at 12:50:40 - 25/10/2011
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My old PS3 (first run 60gb upgraded to 500gb) only gets noisy if the auxiliary fans kick in. The optical drive can be a bit clunky if it's doing a lot of seeking, but most games seem to bypass that somehow.

One thing's for sure, by arriving late to the party for this generation, you can hoover up some stupendous bargains game (and hardware) wise.
#10 at 12:54:59 - 25/10/2011
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Cheers chaps.
I might see if I can wangle a 360 as an Xmas pressie from Mrs Boo.
#11 at 12:58:32 - 25/10/2011
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Yup looks like I'm going to be upgrading if I can convince my boss to buy my Elite. Annoying thing is, he only really likes Retro games. If MS hadnt taken Gauntlet off of XBLA, he'd buy it without a second glance.

I know you can use a USB stick to backup/transfer files...will I be able to temporarily dump them on to my laptop? Just wondering if the partition will be readable by a Windows PC?
#12 at 13:41:47 - 25/10/2011
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Doesn't the USB device need to be at least 16gb?

How about using a camera memory card that you're not going to use for a while and just leave them on that for a few days until you get your new machine?
#13 at 13:44:48 - 25/10/2011
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I think 16gb is actually the maximum. Trouble is, I've got way more content than that (Crysis and some other GoDs, various other bits of DLC that I've got over the years - it all adds up!).

Thats assuming GoDs and DLC can be transfered of course, I'm assuming its not just saves.

Actually, to answer my own question, it looks like I can store it on PC in the interim.
#14 at 14:10:21 - 25/10/2011
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That's a good feature, I didn't know you could do that. That could be very useful.
#15 at 14:15:27 - 25/10/2011
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frod said:Online communities will drive the adoption of the future systems. Xbox->Xbox 360 was just a preview; online gaming is the engine of core game sales. The first big online title that is exclusive to the next generation of systems will drive hardware sales to that system, the only question in my mind is whether it will be driven by first- or third- party. Third parties were burned by a lack of preparedness last time, but all indications are that this is definitely not going to be the case this time.

Really though? People seem pretty hype for Dark Souls, Batman, Skyrim, Zelda etc, not mainly for multiplayer. And there's no way Activision go exclusive to a next-gen console with CoD, until they are still guaranteed 20m+ sales.
#16 at 16:03:54 - 25/10/2011
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It only takes on game; I think it would be more likely to be a battlefield sequel that does it anyway, Activision need a new engine for nextgen CoD,
#17 at 16:09:13 - 25/10/2011

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