Star Wars - Machete Order


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oneiros
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Very interesting and thoughtful article about the Star Wars films, and which order to watch them in: Introducing Machete Order

As an aside, the articles mention Harmy's Despecialized Editions of the original trilogy; anyone got the HD versions of these and might be willing to burn me copies? ;)
#1 at 11:59:44 - 30/09/2012
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Having never seen Star Wars (yes, I know there's a Radio 4 show by that name), if I ever choose to, I might go by this order.

That said, having read that impressive blog post, and now knowing all the reasoning behind the order, it kinda ruins the illusion anyway.

Oh well, maybe in a few years once I've forgotten the sibling thing.
#2 at 14:39:06 - 30/09/2012
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Oh yes! After several evenings abusing my broadband I now have all three of Harmy's Despecialized Editions in 720p AVCHD; guess what I'm going to be watching this weekend...

/cue crawl
#3 at 21:15:26 - 16/11/2012
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Y'know what, at the time of this thread bumping I actually HAD forgotten the whole sibling thing but I just read my own post and now I'm reminded again
#4 at 08:58:18 - 17/11/2012
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When my kids watch Star Wars, they'll get to see all 6. Original trilogy, then new trilogy.

For better or for worse that's how the films are. No use doing this and trying to pretend they're something that they're not. You're only kidding yourself.
#5 at 14:03:31 - 17/11/2012
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DDevil said:No use doing this and trying to pretend they're something that they're not. You're only kidding yourself.

That depends on who you think has authority over what is cannon and what isn't, once a work of fiction has been produced. Which is to say you've struck upon what is actually a rather complex and interesting philosophical debate.

(And it isn't trivial: choice over what is canon and decisions over interpretations of content are the reasons that there are so many denominations of Christianity, for example).

Indeed, people who choose to ignore Star Wars Episode 1 could be (weakly, as motivations obviously differ) analogous to Jews who do not acknowledge the New Testament.

Which is to say, you can pretend (or believe) that created works are something they aren't. The precedent is clearly there. However, different people will of course disagree over whether the content consumer has any right to do so, or where the authority truly lies regarding cannon.


My favourite recent example of this is when content creator JK Rowling decided to reveal that Dumbledore was gay, after her series was completed, and this was information that the series doesn't provide in any obvious manner. Here the question arises: does her assertion count, and do readers have to accept it? And deeper under that question: does she, after she has completed the work, retain any authority over any further interpretation of that work, or is it now in the hands of the readers?


Anyway.
#6 at 14:42:50 - 17/11/2012
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very nice idea. The first prequel was a really terrible film, not just for its crimes against the series as a whole. Like he says at the end, you don't need to ignore it, you can just treat it like Caravan of Courage or whatever.
#7 at 16:15:17 - 19/11/2012
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An interesting read and it actually makes more sense to watch the films in that order. However the writer should have told you the order he is advising you to watch them in first (IV, V, II, III, VI) before telling you why. The article is aimed at first time viewers of Star Wars, but he gives away Empire's main surprise before telling you not to watch the films in episode order as that spoils Empire's surprise before you have watched it!
#8 at 16:49:54 - 19/11/2012
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dunno, I think anyone evangelising this has to have already seen them. Who is going to believe a random blog telling you to watch films in the wrong order?
#9 at 17:25:17 - 19/11/2012
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oneiros said:Oh yes! After several evenings abusing my broadband I now have all three of Harmy's Despecialized Editions in 720p AVCHD; guess what I'm going to be watching this weekend...

/cue crawl


What did you think of these versions dude ?
#10 at 03:52:53 - 02/12/2012
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I've watched a chunk of Star Wars and you can spot the laser disc/DVD bits fairly easily but it's not too jarring.
#11 at 11:41:31 - 10/12/2012
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JimJam said:
What did you think of these versions dude?

Well, I certainly prefer them to Lucas' latest bastardizations, but yes, the transitions between the Bluray and Laserdisc/DVD sources can jar. Also, in the Tatooine scenes in Star Wars, C3PO just looks way too shiny; I'm guessing Harmy decided it was better to leave him glinting rather than have to use a lo-res source for so many scenes.

All it's done is confirm that I would still pay for a Bluray version of the original trilogy, as per the original releases.
#12 at 08:48:22 - 14/12/2012
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oneiros said:
All it's done is confirm that I would still pay for a Bluray version of the original trilogy, as per the original releases.


This, in spades.

#13 at 13:48:40 - 14/12/2012
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I know what you mean - my copies of the non-fucked laserdiscs are OK, but we can but hope Disney sort this shit out.
#14 at 16:58:13 - 14/12/2012

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